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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231617247" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Daniel Silverstone <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231617247">(Mar 24 2021 at 11:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am receiving more and more spam sent to me via <code>@rust-lang.org</code> addresses which I dare not pass to my classifiers because that risks them deciding that <code>@rust-lang.org</code> is a spam provider.  Is there anything infra can do to capture/reduce these, and if so, is there an address I should forward uncaught things to?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231618516" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231618516">(Mar 24 2021 at 11:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hm, I'm a bit wary of you directly forwarding (in case <em>you</em> get marked as a spammer). I'm not sure how much we can do right now, but there's been some thinking about the communications infrastructure in general, and I suspect that this particular problem is potentially solvable with some investment. Maybe you can screenshot a couple and send an email to infra@? That would help at least understand what they look like :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231621685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> bjorn3 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231621685">(Mar 24 2021 at 12:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am also getting a lot of spam. It has a To address of team@. Most of it is that something is "ready for delivery" and you need to give your address to deliver it to. Or they have a "new product". On several occasions the DKIM(?) was incorrect, so I think it gets directly sent to my own email rather than through a forward from team@.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231636440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Daniel Silverstone <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231636440">(Mar 24 2021 at 13:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I only have one to hand, but I'll send a png of it, and of its headers.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231637958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231637958">(Mar 24 2021 at 13:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks. I'm not sure how much we can do, but it's definitely a useful data point, thank you for raising it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231638249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Daniel Silverstone <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231638249">(Mar 24 2021 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>If there were a way to get mailgun to classify the mails, then I could add a custom rule to take that into account directly.  It's hard for systems downstream of something like mailgun to sensibly apply learning to such mails without risking identifying mailgun or <a href="http://rust-lang.org">rust-lang.org</a> as spammers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231638321" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231638321">(Mar 24 2021 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>google already classifies all of that mail as spam fwiw, there are robots, massage chairs and whatnot in there.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231638509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Daniel Silverstone <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231638509">(Mar 24 2021 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, my personal threshold is higher than google's because I have a number of less-good family members who forward things to me and are sad when my mail system learns them as spammers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing%20spam%20levels/near/231638602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Daniel Silverstone <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Increasing.20spam.20levels.html#231638602">(Mar 24 2021 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>But as a corollary, I often have to go spam-bin diving on my gmail to retrieve non-spams, so it's swings and roundabouts</p>



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